Comments on: Girl Geek Dinner #2: Sponsored by Facebook http://www.bayareagirlgeekdinners.com/baggd2-facebook/ Thu, 20 Nov 2008 20:23:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: aishwarya http://www.bayareagirlgeekdinners.com/baggd2-facebook/#comment-62 aishwarya Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:31:33 +0000 http://www.bayareagirlgeekdinners.com/?p=12#comment-62 presence of women in business is a force for growth and greater civility. This will be thrown up in the face of every woman who attends this event, not to mention the other sponsors presence of women in business is a force for growth and greater civility. This will be thrown up in the face of every woman who attends this event, not to mention the other sponsors

]]> By: Careers.Org Blog http://www.bayareagirlgeekdinners.com/baggd2-facebook/#comment-60 Careers.Org Blog Fri, 20 Jun 2008 22:36:34 +0000 http://www.bayareagirlgeekdinners.com/?p=12#comment-60 <strong>Are You a Woman in Information Technology? Attend a Girl Geek Dinner...</strong> By Jennifer Boutell, Careers.Org Contributing Editor Looking for some real life contact in your “social networking” strategy? Girl Geek Dinners started in London, as a way for women in information technology and other technical fields to ... Are You a Woman in Information Technology? Attend a Girl Geek Dinner…

By Jennifer Boutell, Careers.Org Contributing Editor

Looking for some real life contact in your “social networking” strategy? Girl Geek Dinners started in London, as a way for women in information technology and other technical fields to …

]]> By: Meryl Steinberg http://www.bayareagirlgeekdinners.com/baggd2-facebook/#comment-56 Meryl Steinberg Tue, 17 Jun 2008 22:54:37 +0000 http://www.bayareagirlgeekdinners.com/?p=12#comment-56 The women on stage for your demo seemed uncomfortable, as did the founder. That should have been a clue. Your idea for getting money for providing content is a grand idea. So, why did this remind me of prostitution? It's a sad enough that men use women as sex toys for promo, but other women??? Comeon guys.. I mean gals? You can do better. We are yearning to see the bar set higher. The women on stage for your demo seemed uncomfortable, as did the founder. That should have been a clue. Your idea for getting money for providing content is a grand idea. So, why did this remind me of prostitution? It’s a sad enough that men use women as sex toys for promo, but other women??? Comeon guys.. I mean gals? You can do better. We are yearning to see the bar set higher.

]]> By: mary hodder http://www.bayareagirlgeekdinners.com/baggd2-facebook/#comment-55 mary hodder Tue, 17 Jun 2008 21:23:57 +0000 http://www.bayareagirlgeekdinners.com/?p=12#comment-55 One more thing left out of my comment above: I would not want to have a Zivity photography taking photos of women at this event for Girl Geeks. It's a professional event.. and further promotes in this context the sexualization of women at work. It would be fine at a fun event.. but not this dinner. One more thing left out of my comment above:

I would not want to have a Zivity photography taking photos of women at this event for Girl Geeks. It’s a professional event.. and further promotes in this context the sexualization of women at work. It would be fine at a fun event.. but not this dinner.

]]> By: Mary Trigiani http://www.bayareagirlgeekdinners.com/baggd2-facebook/#comment-54 Mary Trigiani Tue, 17 Jun 2008 21:21:44 +0000 http://www.bayareagirlgeekdinners.com/?p=12#comment-54 Am very disappointed that this great event team has chosen to accept sponsorship by a woman-owned and led pornography company. Apart from being inappropriate, the choice concerns me from the perspective of what exactly we mean by female emancipation today. It is not the ability to build and run businesses of any kind in the way that men have -- just because we can. Emancipation means freedom from enslaving ourselves and others to the belief that a woman's role in society is to use her body to attract business, keep business or do business. Further, having been around since before the millenium, I understand the broader implications of this move both for the pornography company and the men who have given it publicity: that by accepting this company as a sponsor and attending the dinner, women endorse the creation of pornography and it's because we can create it ourselves now. You are reinforcing the age-old rationalization that humans are here only to satisfy each other's baser instincts instead of demonstrating that the presence of women in business is a force for growth and greater civility. This will be thrown up in the face of every woman who attends this event, not to mention the other sponsors and the event team itself. I encourage you all to re-think your acceptance of this sponsor. Thank you. Am very disappointed that this great event team has chosen to accept sponsorship by a woman-owned and led pornography company. Apart from being inappropriate, the choice concerns me from the perspective of what exactly we mean by female emancipation today. It is not the ability to build and run businesses of any kind in the way that men have — just because we can. Emancipation means freedom from enslaving ourselves and others to the belief that a woman’s role in society is to use her body to attract business, keep business or do business. Further, having been around since before the millenium, I understand the broader implications of this move both for the pornography company and the men who have given it publicity: that by accepting this company as a sponsor and attending the dinner, women endorse the creation of pornography and it’s because we can create it ourselves now. You are reinforcing the age-old rationalization that humans are here only to satisfy each other’s baser instincts instead of demonstrating that the presence of women in business is a force for growth and greater civility. This will be thrown up in the face of every woman who attends this event, not to mention the other sponsors and the event team itself. I encourage you all to re-think your acceptance of this sponsor. Thank you.

]]> By: mary hodder http://www.bayareagirlgeekdinners.com/baggd2-facebook/#comment-53 mary hodder Tue, 17 Jun 2008 20:59:13 +0000 http://www.bayareagirlgeekdinners.com/?p=12#comment-53 Hi, Glad to see you are doing another girl geek dinner. I wanted to pass along my thought when i saw that Zivity was sponsoring the dinner and speaking. I'm guessing that they got a lot of flack for the CEO taking of her shirt at the top of Techcrunch from women in SV. Seeing that hardly any women get a Techcrunch feature, many women, myself included, concluded that the message was the way to get on TC was to take your shirt off. I thought the video itself was funny, but it just didn't belong on TC and sexualizes the business of creating a startup by women. It just feels uncomfortable. Then seeing that Zivity was hosting and speaking here.. I'm guessing that they were trying to get back into the good graces of tech women by doing this. About 10 women have commented to me today (at Supernova) that they are appalled by Zivity and Girl Geek Dinner collaborating. It's not that we object to porn, just to the using (or appearance of using) girl geeks to get back their cred. Even if that's not what's happening from their perspective, the rest of us who would like to *not* be sexualized and objectified in our work lives really find the Zivity association disconcerting. I hope you aren't being used, but I also won't attend on Thursday night because I don't want to support Zivity. Mary Hi,

Glad to see you are doing another girl geek dinner.

I wanted to pass along my thought when i saw that Zivity was sponsoring the dinner and speaking.

I’m guessing that they got a lot of flack for the CEO taking of her shirt at the top of Techcrunch from women in SV. Seeing that hardly any women get a Techcrunch feature, many women, myself included, concluded that the message was the way to get on TC was to take your shirt off. I thought the video itself was funny, but it just didn’t belong on TC and sexualizes the business of creating a startup by women. It just feels uncomfortable.

Then seeing that Zivity was hosting and speaking here.. I’m guessing that they were trying to get back into the good graces of tech women by doing this.

About 10 women have commented to me today (at Supernova) that they are appalled by Zivity and Girl Geek Dinner collaborating.

It’s not that we object to porn, just to the using (or appearance of using) girl geeks to get back their cred. Even if that’s not what’s happening from their perspective, the rest of us who would like to *not* be sexualized and objectified in our work lives really find the Zivity association disconcerting.

I hope you aren’t being used, but I also won’t attend on Thursday night because I don’t want to support Zivity.

Mary

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